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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   ned svi 13, 2012 10:28 pm

jbt gledam i ne vjerujem aaaa kak sam sretna juuhhhhhh lol
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   čet kol 02, 2012 5:32 pm

Meni samo po glavi se mota da je to vještičji rukopis. Ne znam..
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   pon pro 17, 2012 9:26 pm

"However, there is debate about the features of the manuscript which Rugg's suggested method was not able to emulate. The two main features are lines showing different linguistic features from the bulk of the manuscript, such as the Neal keys, and the statistical properties of the text produced. Rugg argues that these linguistic features are trivially easy to hoax using the same approach with a different set of tables, and would add about five minutes to the time to produce each page; the counter-argument is that this makes the hoax too complex to be plausible. Regarding statistics, Rugg points out that text produced from the same set of initial nonsense syllables but using different table structures shows widely different statistical properties. Since there are tens of thousands of permutations of table design, he argues that it would simply be a question of time to find a design which produced the same statistical properties as “Voynichese”. Whether or not this would prove anything useful is another issue, since it could either be used to support Rugg’s argument, or dismissed as coincidence.
Further counterarguments are:
• There is no historical evidence showing that Cardan grilles were used for this kind of purpose at any time in history
• The radiocarbon dating, codicology and palaeography all indicate that the manuscript was constructed roughly a century before Cardan grilles were devised
• The mathematical concept of randomness was not yet fully formed in the time period proposed"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Rugg


Gordon Rugg britanski kompjuterski znanstvenik tvrdi da je rukopis najobičnija prevara, i to prevara stara malo više od tri stotine godina - djelo prevaranta Edwarda Kelleyja, koji je živio u elizabetinskom razdoblju u Engleskoj. Ovo se ne slaže sa istraživanjem starosti materijala same knjige:

Analizom rukopisa potvrđena je jedino njegova starost - napisan je u razdoblju 1450 - 1520. - a to ne ide u prilog Rugg-ovog mišljenja!

Rukopis do ovog trenutka javno nije dosad nitko dešifrirao, to je još uvijek činjenica!

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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   uto pro 18, 2012 5:40 pm

meni se cini da je to neka vrsta knjige sjenki,pri cemu je autor te knjige izmislio neko svoje ili spojio vise pisama u jedno.
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   pon sij 07, 2013 7:16 pm

Jedno od rijetkih do danas nedešifriranih pisama. Drugo bi bilo primjerice etrursko...
...no, ovaj tekst nije pisan na ekom narodnom pismu, prije se radi o kakvom tajnopisu ili kako sanjak kaže, iz tko zna kojeg razloga izmišljenom pismu. Uglavnom, možemo slobodno reći da nemamo pojma o čemu se radi...
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   sub sij 19, 2013 12:59 am

mozda je samo prepisano od neceg jos starijeg kao karte Piri Reis...
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   pon oľu 04, 2013 5:48 pm

om je napisao/la:
mozda je samo prepisano od neceg jos starijeg kao karte Piri Reis...

Kad bi doista znali što tamo piše možda bi i mogli špekulirati s ovam. Do tada study scratch cry
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   pon oľu 04, 2013 7:01 pm

Ma to je i napisano da se ne dešifrira, sigurno neka zajebancija :P

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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   pon oľu 04, 2013 8:41 pm

mozda su i za karte Piri Reis mislili da je to necija fikcija dok nisu kartirali juznu ameriku.
ako si nesto ne mozete pojmiti ne znaci da to ne postoji. najveci umovi su uvijek gledali izvan okvira, a vi vidim živite u okvirima. :) peace and love
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   uto oľu 05, 2013 6:44 pm


U tuđem oku vidiš trn, a u svom ne vidiš balvan
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   uto oľu 05, 2013 9:28 pm

...take a good look at yourself and describe what you see...
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PostajNaslov: Re: Voynichev rukopis   uto oľu 05, 2013 11:16 pm


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