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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   sub ruj 03, 2016 7:45 pm

Pazi jos ovo:
waldox je napisao/la:
i 1962 su htjeli napast ameriku vratili su se brzo

A jooooooj, htjeli a na kraju nisu, kako ih nije sram? U meduvremenu, na koga su ameri sve izvrsili invaziju u tom razdoblju:
1961 – Kuba

1962 – Tajland

1962 – Opet Kuba

1962–75 – Laos

1964 – Kongo ,Zaïre

1965 – Dominikanska republika

Ma znam sve, vjerojatno je na Kubi netko los opljackao ducan pa je zasluzio......
Prosipam bisere, ali se cesto sjb. pa ih prosipam pred svinje.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   sub ruj 03, 2016 8:34 pm

pa zašto rusi nisu napali 1962 ameriku ,imaju sreće što im truman nije bio predjsnik bacio bi im atomsku bombu na moskvu,nije 1961 nego 1962 zaljev svinja koja invazija 2 dana trajala u losu greška to je bilo 1969... jedi još ti ne znaš šta pišeš zelen si, amerika je jedino kriva za vietnam 1965 ni9jetrebala tamo ući i to je sve
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pon ruj 05, 2016 12:33 pm

waldox je napisao/la:
kina je nebitna honkong je od 1997 kineski
je od 1997. ,i do 1842. - no već sa deng xiaoping 1989. se kinezi pripremaju za ovo:
http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/prijelomni-izbori-u-hong-kongu-u-parlament-usli-mladi-studenti-koji-zele-neovisnost-od-kine/4668809/
cijela priča oko kinekog rasta i stagnacije je rekel bi, šah oko hongkonga i kako hong kong učiniti ekonomski zavisan od kine, pa kad se zakuha ovo kaj se sad zakuhava izletit sa brojkama i ucjenom - pa eventualno tek onda s oružjem.

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Ali titovu Jugoslaviju nisu rusi raspickali nego ameri.
di ti živiš- u meditaciji?
titova yuga je ošla s titovom nogom.
ckj ju je raspičkao kadsi je dozvolio da ga asimilirala cks revidiran velikosrpstvom, što je u javnosti krenulo 1983 u jdp-u sa premijerom "kolubarske bitke" i seansama transa u svim kasnijim izvođenjima.


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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pon ruj 05, 2016 1:04 pm

osobno me briga za to to su sve gospodarski ratovi , izašli ste svi iz teme.............jfkov brat boby je bio u odboru za suzbijanue kriminala i on i jfk su nekom stali na žulj shock
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 8:57 am

http://www.realscam.com/f13/kennedy-assassination-1497/ je napisao/la:

Re: The Kennedy Assassination
I have lived in Dallas County most of my life, so the Kennedy assassination is always a hot button. I have driven through and walked the area numerous times over that last 40 years. There have been countless books, TV documentaries and more over the years. This one is filled with a tremendous amount of speculation.
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John Liggett:
So here we have Lois, whose whirlwind romance (and marriage) only three months before Kennedy's assassination ended in divorce three years later, claiming continued contact with Liggett and his brother Malcolm.
Interestingly enough, Debra is brought on camera again. She is asked to look at a picture provided by someone whom we do not know but we quickly find out why. Debra claims it is a photograph of Jack Ruby with Malcolm Liggett and his wife Suzanne. I guess this is to provide some sort of link between Ruby, John Liggett, and the assassination. The whole scenario soon imploded. As mentioned above, Malcolm Liggett filed a federal lawsuit against A&E Networks, the company operating The History Channel." Liggett was able to show the photograph used was not of him and his wife and they had never met Ruby.
"A settlement was reached in March (2004) but the terms are confidential, according to (Richard) Brown (Liggett's attorney) and The History Channel."
Narrator: "On the morning of February 14, 1975 Liggett was being transferred with other prisoners from the courthouse in downtown Dallas to the nearby county jail. The police vehicle had entered the garage when Liggett, using a hidden key, slipped out of his handcuffs and made a bid for freedom. A single shot in the back, fired by a sheriff's deputy killed him instantly."
Newspaper reports show this claim is inaccurate. "Liggett fell face down on the sidewalk. Deputies said he had a "faint heartbeat" when he was loaded into an ambulance."
This is the story that will never die!
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tam u kvartu (usa.texas.dallascounty) j.m.ligett varijanta je trajno najaktualnija.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/phillip-f-nelson/lbjs-henchman/ je napisao/la:
Immediately after JFK’s assassination, Liggett was called while at work at Restland Funeral Home.  He rushed to Parkland, calling his wife only once to let her know that he had been asked to work on the President and that he would call her, she shouldn’t try to call him.  According to Billie Sol Estes, in his book Billie Sol Estes — A Texas Legend, Liggett left Restland with an assistant, taking a body that had been stored in the morgue that was similar to JFK’s body and prepared to look like a rear head shot was the cause of death.  Estes stated that the second body was used to create false evidence and that photographs, x-rays and even the complete brain from that cadaver were substituted for JFK’s autopsy “records” in order to re-frame the documents to conform to the official story; moreover, he stated that all of this was sent first to the White House before being sent to the FBI, the Warren Commission and the National Archives.

According to Estes, the “other body” was taken to Washington on a private jet.  If that story is true, it is a possible explanation of the provenance of the discrepancies that exist in photographs and x-rays which could not have been taken of Kennedy’s head. It might also explain the enigma, noted elsewhere, of the supposed existence of JFK’s complete brain, weighing 1500 grams, more than an average male brain, as reported by several authors; that is impossible, since most of his brain had been blown out the back of his head, much of it splattering the motorcycle policeman B. J. Martin in the process.  The scenario that I previously portrayed, in LBJ: The Mastermind, had been based partly on David Lifton’s early research, but I independently concluded that JFK’s body was moved to a shipping crate and put on “Air Force 2″.  I have since reevaluated that, based upon Lifton’s latest research, pending publication, which clarifies that and proves that JFK’s body was indeed simply moved to the cargo hold of Air Force One immediately upon delivery of the ornate casket, while the Kennedy party was still on the tarmac.  Lifton explained his findings at an address in November, 2013, at Bismarck State University, which is available for viewing on a Youtube video.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 10:18 am

Kako je onda ubijen Kennedy prema toj teoriji?
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 10:54 am

ovak nabrzaka preletivši po textu (na ovom compu nemrem youtube otvarati) stičem dojam pa varijanta vodi prema l.b.johnson koji (valjda prema naređenju vojnoindustrijskog kapitala, a kao najbliži jfk-u najbolje upučen u njegov raspored i sl.) naruči texašku mafiju i sinkronizira osiguranje i kasnije istražitelje kako krojit gabarite i tijek istrage - dok mafija obavlja trenutačno neophodnu operativu nad osumnjičenima i prema potrebi nad svjedocima.
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...........Roscoe White
Still another possible victim of Liggett was Roscoe White, a Dallas policeman who had only obtained his position a few weeks before the assassination.   Before that, White had worked at Jagger-Chiles-Stoval Company, which had contracts with the U.S. Army to perform highly classified work, at which somehow Lee Harvey Oswald had also obtained a job.  White’s job there involved map making and working with photographic development, which gave him skills in retouching photographs. The two had known each other from their Marine Corps tours in Japan.  Among his photographic achievements, according to researcher Stephen Pegues, was the set of infamous photos ostensibly showing Oswald holding a rifle and, confusing rival Marxist / Communist genre newspapers. Pegues asserted that the photographs show a bump on the figure’s arm that Oswald did not have, but White did.  That, together with many other discrepancies identified by other researchers, conclusively prove that those photographs were fabricated, apparently by Roscoe White.
According researcher and author Matthew Smith, White is also considered by many to have been one of the shooters, indeed “Badgeman” the policeman...........
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 11:15 am

da ti sve znaš zašto bi lbj ubio jfka to su gluposti,nafia je bila u 60ima moćna i s političarima nije im se svidio jfk jer je obećao da će kriminalce sve srediti,a one koji su mu financirali kampanju je zaboravio i osvetili mu se bag
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 11:30 am

sve opcije su uvjek otvorene. no nije mi neinteresantno uvažavanje varijanti, jer dok nije činjenično utvrđeno (a ukoliko je zavjera dobro zakopana i izvedena istinitu činjenicu nećemo sazanati nikad) ko i kak - istina i odgovor na zašto? ,će se nalaziti u detaljima varijanti. varijanta s ligettom pak povezuje puno detalja, osoba i vremenskih koincidencija. to bi mogao biti razlog popularnosti te priče u dallasu.
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..........close connection between John Liggett and David Ferrie, the alleged New Orleans “handler” of Lee Harvey Oswald, inexorably leads one to ponder whether Liggett’s involvement in handling the “reconstruction” of JFK’s skull was directly connected to his long-time friendship with a key member of the New Orleans group (Clay Shaw / Bertrand, Guy Banister, David Ferrie) overseeing the details related to the preparations for the assassination.  When Oswald returned to New Orleans, in April, 1963, he was immediately swept into the nascent conspiracy, either through his previous association with Ferrie or through his uncle, Charles “Dutch” Murret, who was on the payroll of Carlos Marcello.  Banister’s long-time secretary, Delphine Roberts, would not cooperate with Jim Garrison because she thought that both Banister and Ferrie had been murdered and feared for her own life, but she did admit to the HSCA that Oswald worked out of Banister’s office. The clear connections between Oswald to Ferrie and Banister, and theirs back to John Liggett, completes an undeniable circle that widens and connects with the many other men and the circles each of them inhabited: From Johnny Rosselli, George Joannides and David Phillips, and then from them to Bill Harvey and David Morales, and from them to Cord Meyer, James Angleton and J. Edgar Hoover, all the way back to the top of the hierarchy, where sat Lyndon B. Johnson.   That same evidence also demonstrates the “continuum” that existed in the “before” and “after” conspiracies; it leads inexorably to a logical presumption that Lyndon Johnson’s known actions to cover-up the real story “after” the assassination – viewed by many (since that is exactly how he intentionally portrayed it) as merely his attempt to avoid “World War III” – were intrinsically connected to the “before” plotting and planning: It is this continuum that shows the “pre” and “post” conspiracies were not separate and unconnected. There was only one “conspiracy” and the shooting of JFK was merely the half-time intermission which marked the switch of most of the first half actors (e.g. Angleton, Harvey, DeMohrenschildt and Oswald) with the second half actors (e.g. Hoover, Dulles, Specter, et. al.).  There was really only one most prominent actor in both halves: Lyndon B. Johnson.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 12:29 pm

johnson nema veze s tim ljudi svašta pišu nisu se slagali oko nekih stvari a pošto se ubojstvo desilo u dallasu onda ga povezuju, lbj je bio liberal uveo je puno zakona liberalnih i socijalnih kao veliko društvo rat je eskalirao 1965 kad je on bio predsjednik ali amei su u namu bili još davno prije,,amerika nijetrebal ići u nam,, mafia je ubila jfka i sam giancana smetao im je ,kad su rubya uhvatili počeo je govoriti pitajte čovjeka u bijeloj kući no to su samo varke.za menejfk nije bio loš predsjednik uveo je puno promjena i to se mnogima nije svidjelo...onda je 1968 johnson rekao da odlazi zbog vietnama i došao je nixon konzervativni koji je zaustavio rat 1972 povukao vojsku a prisluškivao građane amerike i on je dobio opoziv i otišao
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   čet ruj 08, 2016 1:30 pm

bitno je i kaj ljudi tam iz kvarta zaključe, škvadra kaj sve to osjeti na svojoj koži (i rezulatate pojedine politike i poduzete akcije oko nečega).
evo npr. početak srpske invazije na rh i atentat na parađika: ameri, francuzići, australci .... to možda i poprate kakvim napisom, interpretiraju vijest ili prepišu od vjesnika (tada još postojao) ili od srba koji napišu svoju varijantu naše službene varijante i sl. - ali tu u zg u rh ti možeš naići na ekipu s đamije i kvatrića, iz šenoine, vrapča, iz sesveta, dugog sela ... koji su osiguravali mjesto uviđaja i koji nisu sljepi ni glupi tj. znaju protumačiti tragove i to - i tak si saznal istinitu činjenicu (i u ovom slučaju: naručena egzekucija), a ne neku črčkariju nekog novinarčića u potrazi za boljim gazdom i više kartica pisanog teksta koji protura neki oblik službene varijante (u ovom slučaju: nezgoda s puškaranjem poradi neusklađenosti službi u kontrolnim perimetrima obrane zagreba).
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pet lis 28, 2016 2:32 pm

waldox je napisao/la:
da jer ce napast neku drzavu uskoro i amerikaih mora uaustavit zele i njemačku napast na granici su povecali voijsku,šta si se uhvatio tih rusa tema je jfk


https://www.facebook.com/pernari/videos/vb.1382789368713509/1723515457974230/?type=2&theater
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pet lis 28, 2016 2:56 pm

špernar je hdzov robin hood koji misli da je socijalist a ima 17 000 kn on i sinčić mene oni ne interesiraju tema je jfk,,a šta se tiče rusi su problem uvijek i zauvijek u cijelom svijetu ,amerika samo kad ima republikance
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pet lis 28, 2016 8:25 pm

Ne znam ja ko je on, pre nekoliko dana sam ga prvi put gledao na yt.

Volim kada neko otvoreno i jasno govori istinu  o amerima, NATOu i EU.
A pogledao sam i odnos kune i eura.
17 hiljada kuna je malo; zbog njegovog zdravog razuma i hrabrosti trebalo  bi ga platiti mnogo vise.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pet lis 28, 2016 8:34 pm

da tako je milijun kn njemu a radniku 5 kn,neće njegovo bla bla u saboru ništa promijeniti,,,,hrvatskoj treba roosevelt,jfk,
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   ned lis 30, 2016 2:27 pm

waldox je napisao/la:
da tako je milijun kn njemu a radniku 5 kn,neće njegovo bla bla u saboru ništa promijeniti,,,,hrvatskoj treba roosevelt,jfk,
Kao i obicno, nisi shvatio poantu komentara na koji odgovaras.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   ned lis 30, 2016 4:19 pm

ti mene stalno imaš potrebu ispravljat ja imam 34 godine znam dosta o politici ali ovaj kritizira sve živo a sam je bio hdzovac,nema socijalizma više nego kapitalizam to su tražili 1992 i to su dobili
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pon lis 31, 2016 4:37 pm

U kritikama koje su samo kritike nema ničeg korisnog. Umjesto da fokusiraju energiju na rađenje nečeg konstruktivnog, bilo bi nam bolje.
Nego, da se vratimo na temu, jfk je trajna misterija. Ima toliko raznih alternativnih teorija, napisanih knjiga i snimljenih filmova na tu tematiku da jedino što možemo zaključiti je to da Amerikance to ubojstvo i dalje žuuuuuuuljaaaaa....

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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   pon lis 31, 2016 7:47 pm

ja i dalje tvrdim da je jfka.ubila mafia affraid
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   uto stu 01, 2016 1:38 pm

nije bitno ko ga je koknuo. bitno je ko je naručio ubojstvo.
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   uto stu 01, 2016 3:42 pm

pa mafia je naručila ubojstvo točnije šef čikaške mafije sam giancana
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   uto stu 01, 2016 4:08 pm

mafija naručila ubojstvo kod tajne službe i osiguranja - to mi nije uvjerljivo
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PostajNaslov: Re: tko je ubio jfka ?   uto stu 01, 2016 7:58 pm

čikaška mafia je moćna :x
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